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Yeah I'd definitely look at other brands. It's been a while since I last looked but I saw inexpensive MSI branded monitors of the same size.

That's what my nephew has, actually. An MSI gaming monitor, we actually picked it together when he ordered it. Not this size, but a bigger 1920x1080 native display (I want to say 25 inch but I don't remember), with similar capabilities (1 ms pixel rate, 165 Hz).

I'll consider that. I'm going to see how long I can limp with this condition though, as I have other expenses coming up right now. I'll try and keep a few hundred bucks for a monitor on standby. (no pun intended lol)

Looks like it's permanent now, I couldn't get it going for the life of me. It started out OK as usual and then when it went screwy no amount of unplugging/replugging/restarting monitor or computer or anything brought it back.

I did hook up the old monitor from the other computer and it's almost unusable. The problem this time with the HDMI interface is that the size is wrong. Things are way off screen. Because it's HDMI, all the adjustments in the monitor's menu are greyed out, including "auto adjustment" (that's for VGA) and that's it, you're fucked. I can scale it (virtual and/or viewport settings) but that isn't right and my framebuffer console is unusable outside of X.

I'm not going to be able to play games on this display. I think I'm going to hook the other one back up and put up with the red pinstripe on the backlit canvas.

LOL... fuck's sake. I hooked up the faulty display to the other computer (the RX 570 does have one DP connection) and didn't the Scepter logo splash come on with normal backlight. This is before the computer was even powered on. So it just picked now to snap back into proper functioning (maybe after it sat powered off for a while? I did kill power and press the monitor's power button for a few seconds)

I guess I'll try it again here and maybe get through the day with it again. (Going to order another one right now even before I do that... I was lucky enough to blindly unmaximize my browser window and drag it smaller lol)

Look at this mamasita for $199 CAD

https://www.amazon.ca/MSI-G27C4X-Monito ... 0BX1X4382/

MSI G27C4X, 27" Curve Gaming Monitor 1500R, 1920 x 1080 (FHD), VA, 250Hz, FreeSync Premium, HDMI, Displayport, Tilt

Too slow on the shipping estimate though (June 12 - 14), I'm going to look for something else (this is sold and shipped by Amazon but it must not be stored nearby). Also not keen on the curved shape, but considering it.

I settled for this one for $209 CAD

MSI FHD Rapid IPS Gaming Free Sync 1ms 1920 x 1080 180Hz Refresh Rate 27" Gaming Monitor (Optix G2712F)
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0CRM1GB63/

Main reason being "Wednesday June 5". That's a pretty tall order, but I'd expect it by Thursday at least then.

Edit: That's not a tall order, it's only Monday. I thought it was Tuesday. I'd expect it on Wednesday.

It sure didn't last long. It started up OK, but after a few minutes (using my browser etc.) it went awry.

Smacking it at the back causes the screen to go bright white, then bright red before shutting down for no signal (PC was off and monitor was plugged in but off when I smacked it). I had to smack it again to even get my red backlight pattern back lol

While that isn't the problem with the baseline signal, it seems that the video you showed me for Sceptre TVs is applicable after all here. I didn't smack it that hard, more of a firm tap. That's pretty shittily constructed and with shitty components (the failed regulation... it's probably lines for a reason, because ONE of the inverters/regulators is fucked.)

Ahh fuck, maybe I will get through the next two days with this after all. I just noticed as I was researching and typing, that my display had corrected itself. Nothing triggered that, there was no mode switch or anything. I couldn't get that back for the life of me today.

That thing worked correctly all day and night yesterday after I got it back. I dropped out and switched to icewm (for my gaming tonight) and everything is still good. If it stays that way I'm not going to drop out again, and I'm going to try not shutting down and see if it stays until the new monitor arrives

So nope... leaving the computer running didn't work. I guess it was in sleep mode long enough while I was sleeping for this to happen when it came out of it. It lasted all night for me though for gaming and stuff (including coming out of sleep mode a few times while away)

With these kinds of problems a lot of the observed behaviour is coincidence.

Fun with coincidences? I noticed that after I gave this thing a little slap at the back a few times yesterday, causing a white screen (then all candy red if the Sceptre logo appears), that I soon got it back to normal after unplugging/power cycling the display. So I made an all white (#ffffff) image with gimp and let it sit there full screen while I went for a smoke. Shut down PC, display still had the red lines as the monitor was going down. Unplug monitor, plug back in, turn on and... normal. Coincidence? Probably, but I wasn't able to get it back by power cycling anything yesterday or today

We'll see if it stays for the day/night now. I'm not going to let it go into sleep mode today:

Funny that it suddenly was back to normal when connecting it to your old machine after all of that, like it was trolling you lol! After you get your new one you can RMA the Sceptre and then maybe a month later when the replacement arrives you can run dual 27" displays

That too crossed my mind, but I have it in me to take this one apart and see if I can see anything. This has my curiosity. I'm of course waiting for the new one, as I'm quite likely to completely destroy this one or be unable to get it back together

RMA'ing of course is the best course of action, but the value will be diminished by shipping (to somewhere in the U.S. probably) and hassle. This Sceptre was the least expensive monitor I've ever bought. Too good to be true for how much I've liked it.

With a little desk rearragement I could probably have two big displays. Two DP ports on the graphics card. I think for extending the display across two monitors they only need to be the same resolution (I don't think specific modelines matter? Each would of course have its own)

Of course, now that my new monitor is on the way, this one isn't fucking up today.

The problem is worse than when it started, but I am noticing a pattern that's too regular to be coincidence. Observations:

Once it's working properly, as long as it stays warm it keeps working. The problem comes when it's initialized after it's been off for a period of time. Brief periods of suspend don't affect it, but hours does. This could also explain why I thought leaving that FFFFFF image on full screen helped me get it back too. Obviously if things are warm, expanded materials may make better contact. Once it's messed up, it's hard to get back again. "Stuck" wouldn't be appropriate, it's voltage leakage of some sort. Moving/shaking when handling or unplugging and pressing buttons may affect it too, it obviously has loose shit in it if a little slap can turn the screen white then all red (sceptre logo) then white again and require another slap or two and power cycling a few times.

When line voltage is a bit low it doesn't seem to fuck up. For example it's 113V right now. If it was closer to 120V or more it would fuck up within a few minutes of starting it up if cold. I've observed that enough to think so too.

I hooked up the Sceptre monitor to the old computer today, and at first it worked fine. It wasn't off for that long while being moved (and the line voltage was still relatively low). So I shut it down and left it until just now. I waited until this time, when my voltmeter said 120V (people's AC's not running at night and most people in bed etc.) and turned the computer on. I did not physically touch the monitor at all. It didn't even make it out of VGA mode, the first image on the screen (initial bios screen, then grub) was the red pattern and here it stays. Interesting observation.

What's likely to happen here is, once the display panel warms up, I'll likely be able to get it with a mode switch or a power cycle or two. Or maybe... never again.

More fun with that Sceptre monitor. I've decided to just use it on the other computer. That RX 570 is a pretty handy card, it has DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort. Too bad they didn't go whole hog and include a VGA port lol

Anyway, I could not for the life of me get that display working right (I mean without the dark red lines on backlight opacity). I used it for a few hours, tried mode switching, power cycling etc. and no. I even tried leaving my all white png image up on screen to get some current and heat flowing and nope.

It truly needed a little slap

I'm leery of sending it back because I'd very likely have to pay shipping at least one way (otherwise some random dick could cost them money with fake returns etc.) and then, after being jostled on a truck, it would probably work for the 5 minutes they would test it. I also just simply hate that shit to pieces. Boxing things up, shipping them, trying to make a case for RMA etc.

It really doesn't matter. As long as this is the only thing that goes wrong with it, it will do in a pinch. So what if black has red lines, I could even reduce the use of 000000 in my UI's to make it less ugly. In console mode, who even cares... it's a dark red textured background instead of black. The text and dir_colors codes all show up over top of it perfectly, moreover on the framebuffer console text seems to overlay black behind it a little. It doesn't even look that bad. For extended use, I'll likely be able to get it working after it warms up, by yanking the power and giving it a little slap.

P.S. Taking it apart does not look like a good idea, I decided against it