On my Arch gaming machine I've been running Mate, I use Dolphin for some things but it has always been tough to read file names because the alternating color pattern had poor contrast. It's been that way for a long time. But tonight when I opened it it looked completely different, it actually looks good now.
Dolphin Under Mate Desktop
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Re: Dolphin Under Mate Desktop
That does look good. I don't hate Dolphin as a file manager (I just don't like it lol). I mean, all of those file managers are too graphically confusing for me because I'm used to my X File Explorer for approaching 25 years (it was X Wincommander back then)
You should be able to change those alternating colours though, if not through a KDE interface, get something like "qt5ct" which is a configuration interface plugin that doesn't require KDE or anything to initialize it. You set an environment variable,
I just drop that in /etc/profile.d as "qt5.sh"
That application may be QT6 on your system now, so there's a corresponding "qt6ct" package and then you'd simply set the environment variable to QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt6ct
In either case, set the environment variable and run the program, qt6ct or qt5ct. That program is only the configuration program, it doesn't run all the time or anything.
You should be able to change those alternating colours though, if not through a KDE interface, get something like "qt5ct" which is a configuration interface plugin that doesn't require KDE or anything to initialize it. You set an environment variable,
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#! /bin/sh
export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
That application may be QT6 on your system now, so there's a corresponding "qt6ct" package and then you'd simply set the environment variable to QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt6ct
In either case, set the environment variable and run the program, qt6ct or qt5ct. That program is only the configuration program, it doesn't run all the time or anything.
Re: Dolphin Under Mate Desktop
What would stop me from, say, using Dolphin outside of Plasma/KDE now is that the processes and daemons never go away when you close the application. Those frameworks will be running. I don't care if I have 64 Gb of RAM, I'm old school. The less software running the better.
You also have to watch that you're not saving a session in your desktop environment when you quit. OTHERWISE, those asshole desktop daemons and stuff will get auto-loaded.
Take a look at your process list (ps aux) and see. With Plasma 5 applications, I was pretty disgusted. It would be interesting to see if that's still the same garbage behaviour with Plasma 6 applications. I use the Trinity (KDE3) version of some of those apps because all that shit goes away when I close the application. (e.g. the old Kpdf, khexeditor etc.)
(by the way, that TDE shit has been pretty stable, I've only ever had to recompile that, same sources even, because of subtle breakage once in the last 5 years or so. Copied over from the other system, even, it's still working correctly)
You also have to watch that you're not saving a session in your desktop environment when you quit. OTHERWISE, those asshole desktop daemons and stuff will get auto-loaded.
Take a look at your process list (ps aux) and see. With Plasma 5 applications, I was pretty disgusted. It would be interesting to see if that's still the same garbage behaviour with Plasma 6 applications. I use the Trinity (KDE3) version of some of those apps because all that shit goes away when I close the application. (e.g. the old Kpdf, khexeditor etc.)
(by the way, that TDE shit has been pretty stable, I've only ever had to recompile that, same sources even, because of subtle breakage once in the last 5 years or so. Copied over from the other system, even, it's still working correctly)
Re: Dolphin Under Mate Desktop
This:
Though I have to admit I hacked on "darker.conf" (/usr/share/qt5ct/colors/darker.conf if installed by Arch package, or probably /usr/share/qt6ct in that case) to get that jet black. You should too.
I don't have any KDE shit installed, just QT for applications, and without KDE there's nothing to configure it, so I use this.
That lighter dark grey you see there would be the alternating pattern in a QT based file manager.
Though I have to admit I hacked on "darker.conf" (/usr/share/qt5ct/colors/darker.conf if installed by Arch package, or probably /usr/share/qt6ct in that case) to get that jet black. You should too.
I don't have any KDE shit installed, just QT for applications, and without KDE there's nothing to configure it, so I use this.
That lighter dark grey you see there would be the alternating pattern in a QT based file manager.
Re: Dolphin Under Mate Desktop
Thanks Grogan. Here's what I have running after closing a Plasma application under Mate:
I have a clean slate with a fresh session in Mate.
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[zema@Apophis ~]$ ps aux
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 1 0.0 0.0 22488 13232 ? Ss Mar23 0:02 /sbin/init
root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [kthreadd]
root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [pool_workque
root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-rc
root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-rc
root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-sl
root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-ne
root 10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/0:0H
root 13 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-mm
root 14 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I Mar23 0:00 [rcu_tasks_kt
root 15 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I Mar23 0:00 [rcu_tasks_ru
root 16 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I Mar23 0:00 [rcu_tasks_tr
root 17 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
root 18 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I Mar23 0:46 [rcu_preempt]
root 19 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [rcub/1]
root 20 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/0]
root 21 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 22 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/0]
root 23 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/1]
root 24 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 25 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/1]
root 26 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/1]
root 28 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/1:0H
root 29 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/2]
root 30 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 31 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/2]
root 32 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/2]
root 34 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/2:0H
root 35 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/3]
root 36 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 37 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/3]
root 38 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/3]
root 40 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/3:0H
root 41 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/4]
root 42 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 43 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/4]
root 44 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/4]
root 46 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/4:0H
root 47 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/5]
root 48 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 49 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/5]
root 50 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/5]
root 52 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/5:0H
root 53 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/6]
root 54 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 55 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/6]
root 56 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/6]
root 58 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/6:0H
root 59 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/7]
root 60 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 61 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/7]
root 62 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/7]
root 64 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/7:0H
root 65 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/8]
root 66 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 67 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/8]
root 68 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/8]
root 70 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/8:0H
root 71 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/9]
root 72 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 73 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/9]
root 74 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/9]
root 76 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/9:0H
root 77 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/10]
root 78 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 79 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/10
root 80 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/10
root 82 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/10:0
root 83 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/11]
root 84 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 85 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/11
root 86 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/11
root 88 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/11:0
root 89 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/12]
root 90 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 91 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/12
root 92 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/12
root 94 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/12:0
root 95 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/13]
root 96 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 97 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/13
root 98 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/13
root 100 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/13:0
root 101 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/14]
root 102 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 103 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/14
root 104 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/14
root 106 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/14:0
root 107 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [cpuhp/15]
root 108 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [idle_inject/
root 109 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [migration/15
root 110 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/15
root 112 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/15:0
root 113 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [kdevtmpfs]
root 114 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-in
root 115 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [kauditd]
root 117 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [khungtaskd]
root 119 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [oom_reaper]
root 120 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-wr
root 121 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [kcompactd0]
root 122 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN Mar23 0:00 [ksmd]
root 125 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN Mar23 0:01 [khugepaged]
root 126 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-ki
root 127 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-kb
root 128 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bl
root 129 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [irq/9-acpi]
root 132 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-tp
root 133 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-at
root 134 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-ed
root 135 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-de
root 136 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [watchdogd]
root 137 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/6:1H
root 139 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [irq/26-AMD-V
root 140 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [kswapd0]
root 142 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-kt
root 143 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [irq/28-aerdr
root 144 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [irq/29-aerdr
root 145 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [irq/30-aerdr
root 146 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [irq/32-aerdr
root 147 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [irq/33-aerdr
root 158 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-ac
root 159 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
root 160 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-sc
root 161 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [scsi_eh_1]
root 162 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-sc
root 163 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [scsi_eh_2]
root 164 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-sc
root 166 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [scsi_eh_3]
root 167 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-sc
root 168 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [scsi_eh_4]
root 169 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-sc
root 170 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [scsi_eh_5]
root 171 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-sc
root 172 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [scsi_eh_6]
root 173 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-sc
root 174 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [scsi_eh_7]
root 175 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-sc
root 176 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [scsi_eh_8]
root 177 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-sc
root 186 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-ml
root 187 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-ip
root 189 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/8:1H
root 195 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-ks
root 196 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-zs
root 198 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [irq/27-ACPI:
root 199 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/10:1
root 200 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/7:1H
root 201 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/11:1
root 218 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/13:1
root 220 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/14:1
root 239 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/2:1H
root 240 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/9:1H
root 248 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/5:1H
root 252 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/15:1
root 254 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-nv
root 256 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-nv
root 257 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-nv
root 258 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-nv
root 266 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/1:1H
root 267 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/4:1H
root 268 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/3:1H
root 269 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/0:1H
root 286 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [jbd2/nvme0n1
root 287 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-ex
root 327 0.0 0.0 66864 18512 ? Ss Mar23 0:00 /usr/lib/syst
root 367 0.0 0.0 35392 10320 ? Ss Mar23 0:00 /usr/lib/syst
root 371 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [psimon]
root 438 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-cr
root 457 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-cf
root 458 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [jbd2/sdb1-8]
root 459 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-ex
root 473 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:01 [jbd2/nvme0n1
root 474 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-ex
root 475 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [irq/110-iwlw
root 542 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 543 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 544 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 545 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 546 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 547 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 548 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 549 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 550 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 551 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 552 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 553 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 554 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 555 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 556 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 557 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 558 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 559 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 560 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 561 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 562 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 563 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 564 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 565 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 566 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 567 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-bt
root 568 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [btrfs-cleane
root 569 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [btrfs-transa
root 571 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [btrfs-cleane
root 572 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [btrfs-transa
root 581 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-am
root 586 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-tt
systemd+ 588 0.0 0.0 91624 8184 ? Ssl Mar23 0:00 /usr/lib/syst
dbus 596 0.0 0.0 9356 4360 ? Ss Mar23 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus
dbus 597 0.0 0.0 5464 3564 ? S Mar23 0:04 dbus-broker -
root 598 0.0 0.0 488420 23352 ? Ssl Mar23 0:10 /usr/bin/Netw
root 600 0.0 0.0 18112 9068 ? Ss Mar23 0:01 /usr/lib/syst
root 643 0.0 0.0 18640 10752 ? Ss Mar23 0:04 /usr/bin/wpa_
root 648 0.0 0.0 11120 7236 ? Ss Mar23 0:00 sshd: /usr/bi
root 651 0.0 0.0 154736 20760 ? Ssl Mar23 0:00 /usr/bin/sddm
root 655 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-am
root 656 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-am
root 657 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-am
root 658 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-am
root 659 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-am
root 660 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? I< Mar23 0:00 [kworker/R-dm
root 661 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [card1-crtc0]
root 662 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [card1-crtc1]
root 663 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [card1-crtc2]
root 664 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [card1-crtc3]
root 665 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [card1-crtc4]
root 666 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [card1-crtc5]
root 686 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Mar23 0:00 [psimon]
polkitd 716 0.0 0.0 384800 10496 ? Ssl Mar23 0:00 /usr/lib/polk
root 717 0.0 0.0 470832 15560 ? Ssl Mar23 0:39 /usr/lib/udis
root 740 0.0 0.0 315492 9708 ? Ssl Mar23 0:03 /usr/lib/upow
rtkit 768 0.0 0.0 23060 3264 ? SNsl Mar23 0:00 /usr/lib/rtki
nx 804 0.0 0.1 1519088 107428 ? Ssl Mar23 2:56 /usr/NX/bin/n
zema 909 0.0 0.0 21384 12492 ? Ss Mar23 0:00 /usr/lib/syst
zema 911 0.0 0.0 23144 3448 ? S Mar23 0:00 (sd-pam)
zema 1005 0.0 0.0 113312 15956 ? S<sl Mar23 0:05 /usr/bin/pipe
zema 1016 0.0 0.0 842504 35908 ? S<sl Mar23 0:00 /usr/bin/wire
zema 1018 0.0 0.0 107664 15344 ? S<sl Mar23 0:12 /usr/bin/pipe
zema 1054 0.0 0.0 309364 6124 ? Sl Mar23 0:00 /usr/lib/geoc
zema 145238 0.0 0.0 8964 3840 ? Ss Mar24 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus
zema 145252 0.0 0.0 5132 2936 ? S Mar24 0:00 dbus-broker -
root 145262 1.9 0.2 1375912 162840 tty2 Ssl+ Mar24 54:09 /usr/lib/Xorg
root 145427 0.0 0.0 76716 24476 ? S Mar24 0:00 /usr/lib/sddm
zema 145437 0.0 0.0 569656 57948 ? Sl Mar24 0:00 /usr/bin/kwal
zema 145438 0.0 0.0 997276 52944 ? Sl Mar24 0:00 mate-session
zema 145457 0.0 0.0 316900 10736 ? Ssl Mar24 0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs
zema 145463 0.0 0.0 455972 8052 ? Sl Mar24 0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs
zema 145472 0.0 0.0 382192 7680 ? Ssl Mar24 0:00 /usr/lib/at-s
zema 145478 0.0 0.0 8832 3704 ? S Mar24 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus
zema 145479 0.0 0.0 4116 2368 ? S Mar24 0:00 dbus-broker -
zema 145495 0.0 0.0 229244 5248 ? Ssl Mar24 0:00 /usr/lib/dcon
zema 145500 0.0 0.0 827640 40564 ? Sl Mar24 0:16 /usr/lib/mate
zema 145501 0.0 0.0 235072 7632 ? Ssl Mar24 0:00 /usr/lib/at-s
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Re: Dolphin Under Mate Desktop
The argv is truncated, but I see KDE processes there. Like kwallet, just because you opened a KDE application.
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Re: Dolphin Under Mate Desktop
Oh hey, I should say or remind (I know I had this somewhere at BBF).
If you ever want to see the full argv of your processes, rather than have your console truncate it, redirect to a text file or filter through grep or something. Note that if you're compiling or something, the argv of each of those processes is going to be the full command with all the switches and object files, so keep that in mind (it will be a metric shit tonne of text with very long lines if not using something that wraps text)
You can process that as you see fit (e.g. grep for strings or simply view in editor)
In that very example of compiling, quite often, with these new build systems, the output of the build, the compile commands and all, are prettied up, only showing "compiling object.o" and warnings and stuff. If I want to see what it's doing, for example to make sure it's respecting environment variables etc. I can use ps aux with grep. For example, if I want to check my CFLAGS I could do:
(or some string I know will be in the argv of the process I'm looking for)
P.S. A note about "ps aux c"
That shows only the program name, not the argv of the process. That bites the weenie, because it's not necessarily the name of the program binary, or the name of a daemon, but the program or process's internal name.
Example: firefox is the wrapper, but its actual processes are "Web Content", "Utility Process", "WebExtensions", "Sock Process", "Privileged Cont". That's just one example of why I don't like that (I mean, I know those processes belong to Firefox)
I'd rather see it like this, thanks, you clever people you ![Geek :geek:](./images/smilies/icon_e_geek.gif)
If you ever want to see the full argv of your processes, rather than have your console truncate it, redirect to a text file or filter through grep or something. Note that if you're compiling or something, the argv of each of those processes is going to be the full command with all the switches and object files, so keep that in mind (it will be a metric shit tonne of text with very long lines if not using something that wraps text)
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ps aux > psaux.txt
In that very example of compiling, quite often, with these new build systems, the output of the build, the compile commands and all, are prettied up, only showing "compiling object.o" and warnings and stuff. If I want to see what it's doing, for example to make sure it's respecting environment variables etc. I can use ps aux with grep. For example, if I want to check my CFLAGS I could do:
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ps aux | grep alderlake
P.S. A note about "ps aux c"
That shows only the program name, not the argv of the process. That bites the weenie, because it's not necessarily the name of the program binary, or the name of a daemon, but the program or process's internal name.
Example: firefox is the wrapper, but its actual processes are "Web Content", "Utility Process", "WebExtensions", "Sock Process", "Privileged Cont". That's just one example of why I don't like that (I mean, I know those processes belong to Firefox)
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ps aux | grep firefox
![Geek :geek:](./images/smilies/icon_e_geek.gif)
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grogan 1270 2.0 0.4 11370528 320396 tty1 Sl 13:21 0:23 firefox
grogan 1360 0.0 0.0 247164 31852 tty1 Sl 13:21 0:00 /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -parentBuildID 20240324194629 -prefsLen 38628 -prefMapSize 243397 -appDir /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/browser {47bb5f0d-79ce-4fda-8c26-b34510704dce} 1270 socket
grogan 1379 0.0 0.1 2477996 118384 tty1 Sl 13:21 0:00 /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -childID 1 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 38769 -prefMapSize 243397 -jsInitLen 234952 -parentBuildID 20240324194629 -greomni /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/browser {8e215423-c14d-428d-a672-a357fb758267} 1270 tab
grogan 1431 0.0 0.1 19468768 128480 tty1 Sl 13:21 0:00 /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -childID 2 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 44085 -prefMapSize 243397 -jsInitLen 234952 -parentBuildID 20240324194629 -greomni /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/browser {69d5ff38-3654-4aa8-800f-26d0e72cf2e8} 1270 tab
grogan 1485 0.0 0.0 245892 30188 tty1 Sl 13:21 0:00 /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -parentBuildID 20240324194629 -sandboxingKind 0 -prefsLen 44085 -prefMapSize 243397 -appDir /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/browser {60594b50-71b6-4e8a-9fbb-ed1e90b55d1a} 1270 utility
grogan 1499 0.7 0.2 2554292 157884 tty1 Sl 13:21 0:08 /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -childID 3 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 33152 -prefMapSize 243397 -jsInitLen 234952 -parentBuildID 20240324194629 -greomni /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/browser {685bd6ae-4c26-4b68-8382-26a8ac4adbc7} 1270 tab
grogan 1534 0.0 0.0 2431012 56488 tty1 Sl 13:21 0:00 /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -childID 4 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 33152 -prefMapSize 243397 -jsInitLen 234952 -parentBuildID 20240324194629 -greomni /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /storage3/firefox/lib/firefox/browser {cc2bb812-f147-408d-8644-3cbbdd3bd814} 1270 tab