What a damn shame...

[Grogan]

This wonderful human being, Charlie Kirk, of Turning Point USA that sought to educate American youth to be good, white, Republican, Christian Nationalist patriarchs has been shot in the neck, and killed while selflessly and bravely going to college campuses, even though he knew he wasn't wanted. He even helped put Donald Trump in office, to save America.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/charli ... h-09-10-25

[Grogan]

The dear man did meet his end with brutal irony:

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[Zema Bus]

I don't think I ever heard of him before I heard the report of his assassination.

Last moments: Kirk was shot while answering a question from an audience member about mass shootings

[Grogan]

Well, the sniveling little shit was a popular christofascist propagandist, and indoctrinator since he was 18

[Zema Bus]

DA posted the questions he was responding to (on FB):

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[Grogan]

It's always got to be culture war with him and his ilk. I'm sure the audience member was about to point out that it's a small number compared to the total number of "mass shooters" (now, that's defined rather loosely, I think if someone shoots two people).

It really does seem like he got to eat his own words, though. The "acceptable cost" of all the school shootings etc., as well as him previously grousing about "empathy". He said he didn't like that word, it's "dangerous" to society, sort of thing. That's some Ayn Rand'ian bullshit there.

[Grogan]

Here's a good summary of examples of the kind of ideology this man pushed:

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[Zema Bus]

Yeah that's pretty bad. It's sad that he had so many supporters who agree with all of that.

[Grogan]

Now they are trying to make it a crime to be glad Charlie Kirk is dead. At this time there's still the 1st Amendment but they are putting pressure on employers to fire these people wherever they work.

They are calling the Democratic party a terrorist organization, even though it wasn't the left that did it, because people are telling the truth, and using Kirk's own words to show that he spread hate. They are going after people who fund the Democrats to start. Trump just announced a $15 billion lawsuit against the New York Times for defamation AND accusing them of "illegal campaign contributions" to Kamala Harris. One of the few news orgs that didn't cave to Trump. So it's illegal to donate to Trump's opponents, while douchebag billionaires pump money into subverting democracy. Got it.

I'm sick and tired of their performative hypocrisy.

[Zema Bus]

I guess they're ignoring the findings that the shooter wasn't affiliated with either party, and the democratic politician who was assassinated several months ago.

[Grogan]

Well, in the U.S., as you know, that "independent" thing just means that you haven't registered as a member of a political party (in my country, most people don't join with the party, it's only been in recent years that we even have anything like a "primary" where party members can vote for party leaders... it used to be done by delegates at conventions). It says nothing about how, or if you vote and it says nothing about your socio-political stance if you aren't a member of either party.

From what I got from facts, and reading between the lines is that the shooter was more of an alt-right poster in right wing groups. He comes from a Mormon, Republican family where "leaning left" can mean simply criticizing their ideology and leaders. The etchings on the bullet casings were in the style of Groyper memes, with video game references. Also gleaned... Fuentes came out pretty quick and disavowed this guy, and those that engage in political violence, where he's all but encouraged it before (they were active at the Capitol on Jan 6). He knew this guy had Groyper associations.

I also believe the shooter may have had some cognitive dissonance, having a close friend (texts kind of indicate possible intimacy?) that is trans. That's my viewpoint only, based not on facts but human nature.

None of this supports the narrative that these bullies are trying to push, to start a war to eliminate the Democrats (that are only really on the "left" in context of U.S. politics... they'd be too conservative for my voting pen, in Canada).

These appointed, anointed assholes are just drunk on their own power. For example the head of the FCC that Trump put in place is now threatening Disney, because a network they own hosts political comedian Jimmy Kimmel, who went against their narrative that the shooter was from the left. "We can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to take action on Kimmel or there is going to be additional work for the FCC ahead."

P.S. Just heard that Jimmy Kimmel's show has been indefinitely canceled. Almost every corp. is a lickspittle for Donald Trump now. Nobody else gets a broadcast platform but those that promote their doctrine.

This is all Kimmel actually said about Kirk:

"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said.

That's not even a joke, it's the truth. This is a text book example of "speaking truth to power". Something that the 1st Amendment is supposed to protect.